In the 1954 court case in Scotland regarding Douglas Walsh and jws being exempt from military service. Was fred Franz asked to translate a single bible verse and couldn't.
Touchofgrey
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Quality of jw.org translation?
by Wonderment insomeone asked the following question to an artificial intelligence (ai) website:.
how does the most translated website ensure accuracy of translations?.
answer: .
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Touchofgrey
Lucian was a satirist.
Josephus was born in 37ce not a eyewitness.
A complete copy of his works is dated to around 1100 ce ,so about a 1000 years after the so called events. So there's probably little or nothing of early work, and some of the comments regarding jesus are written in a different style to how josephus wrote. So there's a great probability that the comments were inserted at a later date. So not a reliable source.
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Touchofgrey
So julius caesar made up events and told lies, I see a pattern forming here .
Thanks for clearing that up for me, the death and resurrection account is a made up event and a lie and then embellished decades later by the anonymous authors of the four gospels and yet sadly people today still believe it to be true.
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Touchofgrey
You can't report on something (miracles)that never happened. So no historical accounts will exist.
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Touchofgrey
There's absolutely nothing in the gospels, or the entire Bible for that matter, that points to anything Christ did including the resurrection, that should be recorded and verified
Raising dead people back to life , feeding ten thousand people with a few loaves and fishes. Healing thousands of people with various ailments, walking on water etc ,sun going dark for 3 hours ,temple curtain ripped in two ,earthquake and the resurrection of the dead in Jerusalem at his death .
Possibly these things might get someone's attention.
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Touchofgrey
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21420
His reply to bart ,it's a good thing when these people question each other's opinions leds to progress and further research. That what led bart to agnosticism because of his questioning things and doing further research.
Your thoughts on habermas link ?
You still have not provided independent and verified eyewitnes evidence of jesus resurrection.
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Touchofgrey
https://www.gcrr.org/post/minimalfactsapologetics
Sea breeze please check this link.
Richard Carrier PhD Historian, has YouTube videos and has published many peer reviewed books on the subject of jesus and if he was a real person.
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Touchofgrey
What I meant was that as he is a evangelical Christian who takes the bible seriously and believes that jesus is his saviour, he will be influenced by his beliefs. I heard of a geologist with a PhD still believed that the earth is 6000 years old Influenced by his beliefs.
You have yet to provide independent and verified eyewitnes and historical evidence of the resurrection of jesus at the time it was supposedly happen.
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How many different "rules" do Jehovah's Witnesses have to obey? Can you count them?
by Balaamsass2 inall the big changes for jws since this last fall brought me back to this site, and got me and the wife talking.
just how many things were we not allowed to do growing up as jehovah's witnesses?
we were so used to all the rules, customs, and traditions, that we became used to them.. one site i found claims there are 141 unique rules!!
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Anyone would think that they are a high control group, that manipulate and coerce their victims/followers in every aspect of their daily lives.
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Sea breeze
Dr Gary habermas is a evangelical Christian so not independent.
When I was a active jw I could have come up with 12 "facts" that prove jws are the true religion, as could you yourself at one time, but the facts prove they are wrong.
Fact is a thing that is known or proved to be true.
The 12 points are not facts ,they seem to be based on the belief that the 4 gospels are eyewitnes accounts they are not ,biblical scholars accept that they are not eyewitnes account and written by unknown authors decades after the so called events and only fragments are available.
Regarding saul / paul and his spiritual experience being a fact that jesus was resurrection.
Muhammad had a spiritual experience so does that mean that Islam true?
Joseph Smith said that god and jesus spoke to him, then a angel gave him golden plates, so does that make the mormon religion is true?
You have yet to provide independent and verified evidence of jesus being resurrected.